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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://eftcommunity.emofree.com/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Pain General Discussion</title><link>http://eftcommunity.emofree.com/forums/39.aspx</link><description /><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2007.1 (Build: 20917.1142)</generator><item><title>Re: back pain</title><link>http://eftcommunity.emofree.com/forums/thread/29697.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 07:48:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3ef29671-9687-46d5-a862-0f18aeb38524:29697</guid><dc:creator>sunshine24</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://eftcommunity.emofree.com/forums/thread/29697.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://eftcommunity.emofree.com/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=39&amp;PostID=29697</wfw:commentRss><description>first you need to get some tests done and then only the other things can be looked at.

I came across a free report on the net and I really liked it and would like to share with you.
http://RelieveMyBackPain.com/</description></item><item><title>Re: back pain</title><link>http://eftcommunity.emofree.com/forums/thread/22566.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:13:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3ef29671-9687-46d5-a862-0f18aeb38524:22566</guid><dc:creator>hypnonurse</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://eftcommunity.emofree.com/forums/thread/22566.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://eftcommunity.emofree.com/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=39&amp;PostID=22566</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Joann,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Forgot to thank for the Louise Hay reference. I am planning on sending copies of her book to all of my kids. (Not that I wasn&amp;#39;t a great parent). It&amp;#39;s so easy to blame others for our problems, and parents are the best targets. I just want my kids, and grandkids to be happy. I feel, sometimes, like I&amp;#39;ve wasted much of my life (I know, a wasted emotion, as well as time). I love Louise&amp;#39;s stuff, though. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks again,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dave&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: back pain</title><link>http://eftcommunity.emofree.com/forums/thread/22564.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:01:16 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3ef29671-9687-46d5-a862-0f18aeb38524:22564</guid><dc:creator>hypnonurse</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://eftcommunity.emofree.com/forums/thread/22564.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://eftcommunity.emofree.com/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=39&amp;PostID=22564</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Jo,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks again! I downloaded this and printed it out! This is great!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dave&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: back pain</title><link>http://eftcommunity.emofree.com/forums/thread/22563.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:00:20 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3ef29671-9687-46d5-a862-0f18aeb38524:22563</guid><dc:creator>hypnonurse</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://eftcommunity.emofree.com/forums/thread/22563.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://eftcommunity.emofree.com/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=39&amp;PostID=22563</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Jo,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;thanks so much. I&amp;#39;m going to wait &amp;#39;till I get home so I can download it and put it on my mp3 player.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dave&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: back pain</title><link>http://eftcommunity.emofree.com/forums/thread/22556.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:00:39 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3ef29671-9687-46d5-a862-0f18aeb38524:22556</guid><dc:creator>selfheal4me</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://eftcommunity.emofree.com/forums/thread/22556.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://eftcommunity.emofree.com/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=39&amp;PostID=22556</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Dave - I just thought of another possible resource for you.&amp;nbsp; Rue Hass as a great series of questions to work through for physical pain in the second part of this article &lt;a href="http://www.emofree.com/Articles2/intuition-rue.htm"&gt;http://www.emofree.com/Articles2/intuition-rue.htm&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; They are a great way to keep it light but at the same time get some serious tapping done.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Very best wishes,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Jo&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: back pain</title><link>http://eftcommunity.emofree.com/forums/thread/22553.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:32:32 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3ef29671-9687-46d5-a862-0f18aeb38524:22553</guid><dc:creator>selfheal4me</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://eftcommunity.emofree.com/forums/thread/22553.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://eftcommunity.emofree.com/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=39&amp;PostID=22553</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Dave - have you listened to Maggie Adkins interview on talking with your body?&amp;nbsp; It may well be worth listening to and tapping along with to see if you can establish a dialog with your back to find out what is going on.&amp;nbsp; You can listen to it free at &lt;a href="http://eft-revealed.com/blog/category/talking-to-your-body/"&gt;http://eft-revealed.com/blog/category/talking-to-your-body/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Best wishes,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Jo&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: back pain</title><link>http://eftcommunity.emofree.com/forums/thread/22546.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:58:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3ef29671-9687-46d5-a862-0f18aeb38524:22546</guid><dc:creator>hypnonurse</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://eftcommunity.emofree.com/forums/thread/22546.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://eftcommunity.emofree.com/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=39&amp;PostID=22546</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Stefaan,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the words of wisdom. I am getting &amp;quot;into&amp;quot; Louise Hay&amp;#39;s information, as well. I think we read or hear these &amp;quot;miracles&amp;quot; of people having pain for years getting immediate relief and we are a little frustrated when we don&amp;#39;t get the same response. I have recently embraced the possibility that my back pain, and lifelong weight are both gifts...I am continuing to learn much from them. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks again,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dave&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: back pain</title><link>http://eftcommunity.emofree.com/forums/thread/22544.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:49:20 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3ef29671-9687-46d5-a862-0f18aeb38524:22544</guid><dc:creator>SkyWatcher</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://eftcommunity.emofree.com/forums/thread/22544.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://eftcommunity.emofree.com/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=39&amp;PostID=22544</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;Stefaan,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What a story!!! Thank you so much for sharing.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I agree totally, that pain can serve a purpose, and until we get the message, it will keep trying to give it to us. Many times &amp;quot;the pain&amp;quot; is just a messenger. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;JoAnn &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: back pain</title><link>http://eftcommunity.emofree.com/forums/thread/22537.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:15:49 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3ef29671-9687-46d5-a862-0f18aeb38524:22537</guid><dc:creator>zoestefaan</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://eftcommunity.emofree.com/forums/thread/22537.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://eftcommunity.emofree.com/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=39&amp;PostID=22537</wfw:commentRss><description>Hello Hypnonurse,

May I tell you my story ?  I learned a lot about solving backpain after suffering quite seriously from it.  Your suffering can end as fast as mine did, but you just have to know the reasons, and in our case, they&amp;#39;re probably menthal.
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
15 years ago I&amp;#39;ve had backproblems once because of doing wrong fitnessexercices at home, but since then I&amp;#39;ve never had problems anymore untill 2 years ago.&lt;br /&gt;
We moved to a new neighbourhood, my wife got pregnant, lost my job and decided to start working on my own.  But slowly my lower back began to hurt more and more.  To the point when our son was born I couldn&amp;#39;t stand up straight anymore.  I walked around like an old man bend forwards.  And I was 36...
I went to 3 osteopaths which helped only temporarely or just barely.  To 4 different hospitals to see specialists.  All they could do was to give injections throught the back with cortizone.  I don&amp;#39;t like painkillers and the anti-inflammatory part of it wasn&amp;#39;t enough to take the risk of it.  So at the end, they couldn&amp;#39;t help me.&lt;br /&gt;
So I googled !  The power of the internet !
And I found Quantum Touch.  A kind of Reiki, but supposedly better.  I went to see a girl (23, masseuse) and lay on a table for half an hour.  She put her hands on my back, my legs, my feet (my backpain caused also ischias : radiations in my right leg) and when I got up, I didn&amp;#39;t felt anything anymore !
No backpain !  I stretched my hands upwards, bended my back (with care) in all directions : nothing !  If I wouldn&amp;#39;t have been married, I would have asked her right there and then !!  I cannot explain how I felt.  1 year in pain, all kinds of medical people, and that girl helped me with her hands in 30 minutes.  My trust in the medical world has changed a lot since then.&lt;br /&gt;
After 5 days there was a little that came back (5 or 10% or so), so I decided to go back (so I could talk to her about QT some more).  It went away.  But a few months later we moved again and I got problems in my back again.  That girl didn&amp;#39;t do that job anymore, she moved also.  So my &amp;#39;medical&amp;#39; journey continued.  I found EFT and went to an EFT-practitioner and in 2 sessions it was over again.
&lt;br /&gt;In my case the stress of many things coming together hurted my body.
&lt;br /&gt;See  &lt;a href="http://eftcommunity.emofree.com/forums/t/3878.aspx"&gt;an EFT forum here&lt;/a&gt; for an explanation of Suzanne about feelings locked in your physical body (just like Louise Hays says) and my text about water and bending.
&lt;p&gt; So yes of course, pain is serving a purpose.  Why would your body have pain otherwise ?  It&amp;#39;s a sign that you have gone too far and have to be more carefull.  You can do anything you want, but as long as you don&amp;#39;t solve the root of the problem, it will stay.  It&amp;#39;s like putting water on the flames in a burning house.  It will keep burning untill you put water on the burning material instead of the flames.
&lt;br /&gt; So good news : you can get rid of it quite fast ! (I know it&amp;#39;s difficult to believe, I wouldn&amp;#39;t have believed it either)

&lt;p&gt;many flexible greetings !
&lt;br /&gt;Stefaan</description></item><item><title>Re: back pain</title><link>http://eftcommunity.emofree.com/forums/thread/22037.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:55:07 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3ef29671-9687-46d5-a862-0f18aeb38524:22037</guid><dc:creator>SkyWatcher</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://eftcommunity.emofree.com/forums/thread/22037.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://eftcommunity.emofree.com/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=39&amp;PostID=22037</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;hello dear one,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;our&amp;nbsp;bodies&amp;nbsp;are always talking to us. it keeps attempting to give us messages. if we don&amp;#39;t understand it--it gets louder and louder.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;according to louise hay, in &lt;em&gt;you can heal your life&lt;/em&gt;, back pain represents support of life, and lower back pain refers to:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;div&gt;fear of money&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;div&gt;lack of financial support&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;do either of those fit? if so, you could use something like these for&amp;nbsp; set-up phrases. &lt;em&gt;even though:&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;div&gt;my lower back hurts, and maybe it has to do with lack of finacial support, i am not sure, and i deeply and completely love and accept myself&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;div&gt;i have fear of not having enough money...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;div&gt;i have feelings of not having enough money...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;what i notice about your set-up phrase is that you are dealing with emotions... you aren&amp;#39;t going deep enough. how do you feel about the back pain? here are some ideas that may or may not be true (use them as triggers...) &lt;em&gt;even though&lt;/em&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;div&gt;i am scared that my back may go out on me...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;div&gt;i am getting older and i fear that my back may get worse...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;div&gt;i have lost weight, and that has helped some, i feel helpless that my back pain is still here...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;div&gt;i don&amp;#39;t think eft will work for me, maybe i am not doing it right or not smart emough or______...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;another suggestion, get LOUDER. add CUSS WORDS.&amp;nbsp; and one of my favorites is tap and *** (or rant). maybe your back is your barometer, and like you were saying, the pain could be serving a purpose. be aware of when your back hurts. could you be stuffing your feeling? if so, tap and *** and get it out.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;hope something here helps. please let me know how it goes.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;with love and compassion,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;joann&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>back pain</title><link>http://eftcommunity.emofree.com/forums/thread/22033.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 15:42:17 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3ef29671-9687-46d5-a862-0f18aeb38524:22033</guid><dc:creator>hypnonurse</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://eftcommunity.emofree.com/forums/thread/22033.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://eftcommunity.emofree.com/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=39&amp;PostID=22033</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Hello all,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For more than 10 years, I have been dealing with low back pain.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;There is no history of an injury, no specific event that occured at that time. I use pain meds occasionally, but nothing strong. I&amp;#39;ve lost weight and that seems to help a little. When I use EFT it helps, but never goes away. Some days worse than others. My set up is &amp;quot;even though I have back pain, I deeply and completely accept myself.&amp;quot; Sometimes I wonder if the pain could be serving a purpose, and that&amp;#39;s why it&amp;#39;s not going away. Any thoughts or suggestions? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks&lt;/p&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>