Hello everyone,

I am writing to let you know that I am not really getting there yet, where ever that there is.  EFT is an amazing tool and helps me regularly to shift emotions however I have had very little impact on the progression of the illness.  What's more, I have just heard about a drug called LDN (Low Dose Naltrexone) which has been around in the US for more than 20 years and has never been mentioned to me in the UK.  I have read a lot of fantastic reports about it last week and have started to seek treatment (One GP (MD) in Wales and one chemist in Scotland!)  This drug is effective for all chronic illnesses, not just MS.

It is outrageous that the pharmaceutical industry keeps it quiet leaving thousands, maybe millions of people deteriorate for no reasons, except greed.  This drug is very cheap and seems to be the most effective of all treatments, however not compatible with the other types of immuno suppressors, those being very lucrative!

I have recently attented the Inner Theatre class from Betty Moore Hafter and have found it a very informative tool. It helps getting an inner picture of your present state and see it transform by tapping.

When I joined the Forum in August 2007, I had so much faith in EFT and thought that there would be much exchange about it, it has not been as positive as I thought. I would like to invite again people who have this problem to come forward as I am sure we can make a difference together.

Please share your experience here, in theory and often in practice physical symptoms have an emotional root, wrong beliefs, conflicts of some sorts, complicated by additional conflicts as the illness progresses (shame, idenity,etc..) why not MS? as we have seen in a few cases.

There are also very experienced professionals here, what is their current success?

 Thank you for your attention,

Fabienne

Hi Fabienne,

Just a quick note, as I am just about to leave for a weekend with friends. I am so glad you posted on this because I have been thinking about you in the last while since hearing you participate in Betty and Jade's Inner Theater Class. Thank you for stepping forward to speak.

Your words about the image you have been working with (I'll let you expand on this if you like) has really stuck with me. When you spoke about your recent experiences with this image, some music you heard and what it means to you, it brought tears to my eyes.

Your over all message (well the one I got anyway) attached to the image was to start living in the 'Now' and paying attention to how we feel in the moment. To me that is what it is really all about... enjoying the journey, not the promise of some destination way out in the future and getting upset because we havn't reached it yet!

Even though the so called 'healing promise' of EFT that seems to overshadow all is so up front and center... I think this is something we may need to put into perspective. Your words about living in the now were right in line with helping others take EFT in a new and I believe more powerful direction.

I want to continue to respect, honour and support where EFT has come from but I also want to be able to reach out to embrace leading edge approaches like the Inner Theater teleclass Betty and Jade conducted in May.

I wish I had time to write more but I need to get going. I look forward to other comments on this important topic.

Blessings to you, Karen

P.S. I just posted in another thread about the Inner Theater and included a great quote from Jade.
http://eftcommunity.emofree.com/forums/p/5142/30075.aspx#30075

Hi Fabienne,

In my experience, it is essential to do exercises for MS, and EFT is a great help for this.  Simply tapping for the "emotional" issues is not enough for most people with MS.  I have yet to get a complete recovery like in the EFT video, but any progress or slowing down of deterioration brings dignity and independence. This may be as small as walking again using a walker after being wheelchair-bound for years, or walking again full stop but perhaps not for long periods. 

If you are getting nowhere at all, who knows, if EFT can prolong quality of life just enough for a cure to be found, maybe that in itself is a bonus.

Hugs and healing thoughts... 

Hi Fabienne!

Please share your experience here, in theory and often in practice physical symptoms have an emotional root, wrong beliefs, conflicts of some sorts, complicated by additional conflicts as the illness progresses (shame, idenity,etc..) why not MS? as we have seen in a few cases.

Gary posted an article I submitted http://www.emofree.com/Multiple-sclerosis/multiple-sclerosis-MS-secondary-gains.htm on a client I worked with several years ago. I would just like to be more specific here with some added insight. I work closely with Dr. Lincoln's "Messages from the Body", he lists "Exploitation-rage" as an attribute, a long with a whole series of other insights, Lori was engulfed with rage, that she had lost her childhood with the responsibility of being a/or the major care-giver to her sister, as I read the other insights, I can see many connected emotions she expressed as we met.It was this issue of exploitation, we addressed with EFT, that she had the profound change in the "stuffed feeling of heaviness" in her legs, which helped return her gait.

Other major insight/feelings catagories are "hardening of attitudes", "gotta take care of it myself", & "self-straight-jacketing". He goes on to say "are fearful of being free, and terrified of true feelings, repressing their emotions, and are therefore trapping themselves into immobilization and muscular atrophy"

My experience with combining EFT and Dr. Lincoln's insights to not only specific illnesses but also body parts, is the sensation of "chasing the pain" as I clear blockages, most always using Meridian Charts as guides, the meridian involved is very obvious and I can then locate acupoint, by touching the spot of sensation which 95% of time is sore. This experience has convinced me, that there is a hierarchy of body-emotional mapping, which is connected to not only our brain as in Dr. Hamer's research but, also specific acupoints in our meridian system. 

I am trained as an Aurastar Counselor and have equipment that reads energy levels of 45 seperate organs, glands & body parts from refexology points located in hand and produces a energy pattern to represent our aura. Five years ago, I had the opportunity to collect a series of scan from people who had been diagnosed with MS (including Lori), Fibro or were having balance problems (me). Those scans are posted on my website. There is a definate pattern in brain areas for the majority. A picture is worth a thousand words,but, at risk of upsetting someone, I won't post the connection. A healthy perfect scan would be all green and turquoise, where most of these show white, blue & turquoise in a very similiar in pattern.

Exposure to a chemical cleaning spray, triggered my episode, but, since I was cleaning with a product that I knew I was sensitive to, but, in a determined "got to get this done" mind-set, emotions could have also played a part in combination as I revue the above "Messages" :~) There also seemed to be a Candida connection with most of subjects, so check that out.

When I was working with Lori, I was studying "Allergy Antidotes" and tested her. Without pulling her file, the "big deal" was she tested positive for Measles Vaccine, Rubella to be specific. Surprised both of us! When we talked about it, she said she had her first vaccine at age 9 or 10 and then a booster in college. Her doctors had determined her MS started around age 10 when she went from being graceful to very clumsy. She also noted that it was after her vaccine in college, she really started to have more noticable symptoms. She had a lot going on, so, I am only noting this, because she was having trouble with her eyes and I have always wondered if her sensitivity to the vaccine might have contributed to this problem.  

Fabienne, have you ever tested or been tested through the Body Wisdom Series from "Allergy Antidotes", I found it provides great insight. Intrigued, by Sandi's account of cancer patient posted here, I have put together a series of forms, which now includes meridians/acupoints. I do not use viles, I just read names of substances and energy test, note problem areas on forms and then go back later to clear with EFT using Sandi's general PR Statement. With acuxo.com as a reference, it is then possible to look up specific acupoint and have a better understanding of what malfunction of specific acupoint effects, plus apply EFT to release blockage. So, that is another avenue to explore.

Before EFT, I was a Nikken Distributor, I met another distributor that healed her MS with magnetic products, she was much worse than the man in Gary's video, ready to be placed in nursing home and have food tube inserted. Magnets also stimulate acupoints and correct energy flow.

I worked with another gal with MS, who could hardly hold a pencil, rolled her hands with MagBoys and in less than 5 minutes she could write perfectly. All of these women were on heavy medication.

It is late, hope this is helpful!

LOL,

Sylvia

Hello Karen,

Hope you had a wonderful week end and thank you for taking the time to reply

I did not realise you were the karen in Betty's class... I have learnt a lot about this journey (inner Theatre type) which I have explored with Marian Mills too.  We set off on a journey to the future....I could not get going to start with, Marian suggested that I invite someone/thing from the future to meet me, I tapped on this: ET I can't see anything on this path to the future...IDLAAM.  Suddenly, a white horse came to meet me to accompany me in my journey...I felt clumsy and just saw a long path disappearing in woods with an extensive horizon, it felt like a long journey, also I could not walk or ride so I used a scooter to move along.

My journey was a pleasant succession of landscapes, with a small white unicorn that appeared on a side bank, a french village with another person in scooter, playing petanque!!! (it was such a cliche) then a church that I entered, at this point it is unclear if I was walking, I could not see the scooter, I lit a candle and came out to a scorching sun and light, I was back on scooter and then continued my journey, nothing much was happening until I got to a lake, got on to a boat, to the end of the lake, came out, then the realisation came: I was waiting for something external to happen, not really interacting with my journey, this was the big lesson, it is not the destination (I really had no idea where I was going) but the journey itself.

To my surprise, the white horse has appeared again, he seems to be a reflexion of my internal state. These are the examples when it appeared:

- Listening to a wonderful mantra, I was riding the white horse.

- connecting to a very painful knee, the white horse was trapped in a tight pen, standing on rocks and dust. After tapping, the white horse appeared in a green field with no visible fences.  The pain did not subside straight away, it took a few days.

- other images of the white horse have appeared but I am questioning my experience of it. Am I creating this image now? matching it to how I am feeling?

 I think there is something powerful in this method but I am a little confused as to the results for me.  What also has been apparent is to give the experience time, to take it step by step, to take into account all aspects, and details.

I have had another journey with a sick bird appearing on the ground, as I was tapping, the bird transformed into a more healthy one. But still had anomalies.

I have created a little meditation group, following Eckhart Tolle's teachings, this is a start, I am practicing awareness and presence and watch the pain body's attempts to claim its power, Tapping does help and using phrases like: I am learning to live in the Now, I choose to be present Now are helpful and do put things into perspective.

Thank you for your contribution.

Love

Fabienne

Hello Suzanne,

Exercise is important but I am finding that it is a form of resistance so yes tapping might help. Very gentle exercise is ok, as soon as you get into resistance it is counter productive in my case.  But I do exercise with Tai chi/Chi kong positions and stretching positions.

It does seem to be more effective for other MS types.

Again, I would say that the journey ms has taken me through is a very spiritual and loving one. which in many ways make my life much more meaningful.  So yes EFT does help.

Thank  you for your contribution.

with love,

Fabienne

i hope you won't be upset with me for saying this, but I really salute you for asking for help, so i'll just offer this, take it if it's helpful, ignore what isn't.

I sense a huge feeling of sadness under your writing, carefully veiled with a bit of bitterness, distance and lots and lots (oodles) of pain.

grief

i would really recommend you to work personally with lots of different practitioners, getting a taste of each one's style. You'll do the work mainly yourself, but you can gain a bit from each person, until you get to a more stable plateau. Usually I'd say to work with one person for a long time. but while you might want to do that as well (and marian is a great choice), I'd suggest you go to lots and lots of different practitioners as well. i don't know where this last piece of advice is coming from - somewhere deep in my heart. It's like piecing together the pieces of a massive big picture for you. each adds their bit. Together it makes sense. it doesn't only need to be cutting edge EFT people. There are many old timers with good solid approaches too. each has their own flavor of healing energy, belief in life, possibilities, choice.

I'm glad you found the medicine. Tap on how much trust you put into it. Into the immunosuppressants, and into the doctors and the NHS.

tap on the depression this is all causing you. That's the most pressing presenting symptom.

love

Rachel

Hello Sylvia,

Thank you for taking the time to w rite so extensively.

The exploitation-rage aspects are a big one for me. whqat strikes me is that there was an other conditioning which was over-ruling any expression of discontent as it was expected to be complient, in fact you were good if you complied. And that part who wants to be good is still active and wants to please and complaining or allowing expressionj of these feelings would be a bit of a betrayal.(It is just life)

"hardening of attitudes", "gotta take care of it myself", & "self-straight-jacketing". is another big one as it led me to reject God at 16 as he was obviously not listening to me!! If I wanted anything in life, I had to make it happen myself. A great feeling of abandonment.  (The white horse is wounded and alone - after tapping, he's running off but I see nobody there except him in the night - I think he does not belong anywhere - I tap on ET the white horse does not belong anywhere, he is good and beautiful and has good intentions.....after a few minutes, I am stroking the white horse and feel deep love and compassion for him...) This has turned into a tapping session for me as I was writing this letter...

"fearful of being free, and terrified of true feelings, repressing their emotions, and are therefore trapping themselves into immobilization and muscular atrophy" these all apply, I have worked on all these, there is more to do, I have taken many actions to change these but feel that it is very deep and some parts are still attached to their roles.

I have worked with various people with Bio resonnace machines, Vega machines etc...I have also worked with Quantum Techniques, Stephen Daniel's team, I found that I could not sustain the cost and had no results.

I am following a strict regime of candida diet, together with supplements.  I am looking at oxygen, alkaline treatments.  I have not worked with allergy antidotes from Sandi...I am not allergic to anything in an obvious way, have been told that I  am sensitive to many foods and many products which I avoid, still no difference.

I am open to all kinds of things but nothinbg seems to work, however I may be a lot worse if I did not do all these things.

Eckhart Tolle says that the three attitudes that will make our lives more fulfilled are either : acceptance, enjoyment or enthusiasm, this is quite a good guidance.

I guess that your techniques are not useable remotely?

Thank you for your contribution,

with love,

Fabienne

Hello Rachel,

You have captured my feelings very well.

I have worked with many practitioners. I also do a couple of swaps on a regular basis.  I am looking at working with another practitioner but stick with it for a while.  I tend to be a butterfly, and in my way of working with my feelings too.

Thank you for your contribution,

With Love,

Fabienne

Hi Fabienne!

I can surrogate Body Wisdom Techniques for you, so the discovery process can be done remotely. It takes about 4-5 hours to complete the whole series of forms. Because our energy field is in constant flux, my recommendation is to do it this way. The series consists of 50 seperate catagories. I could then send you the report with work sheets providing tapping proceedure application, that can be adjusted to your own wording.

My intention for this research project, is to be able to discover and then apply EFT or similiar process to all aspects in a non-invasive manner, that can be done along and in conjunction with all other health care choices.

If you are interested, I would need a brief health history and currant symptoms, maybe some family history if you wanted to share. No charge, but I would like to have permission to use discovered information to further my research and to be able to share. With that in mind, personal specific details are not necessary, give the problem a "name" like in "movie" technique.

An "allergy" in this case is something our body is resisting or has low energy. Foods and chemicals can be avoided. Body parts can not be.

I recently did a form for someone who is having extreme symptoms connected to her throat and tongue. In discovering acupoints compromised and then researching on acuxo, there was a definate pattern. Her son reported back, that she had utilized the information and was applying EFT and had already made some major progress. But, you have to take on resposibility of application yourself.

Let me know, if you are interested via forum and then we can go from there.

I love your "White Horse" vision application. Wanting to be good & need for approval are high requirements for many of us. At least for me, rage was not an acceptable emotion even to acknowledge, I was truly surprised as I processed the Common Cancer Insights, that I even had it! The wonder of EFT, is all these emotions can be acknowledged and forgiven both for having them and for who ever may have contributed in a non-destruct private scenerio.

Taking Lori's rage as an example and Marie's (Forum-Moderator) picture-surrogate idea, she could take her parent's picture and siblings and tap on herself and the pictures in combination expressing all her rage - scream etc. and release all her stuffed, non-acceptable feelings of even having them.

I congratulate you in all your progress, and hope this is helpful.

LOL,

Sylvia 

Hello Sylvia,

Thank you for your generous offer. I would be happy to talk with you.  I will contact you privately.

Best wishes,

Fabienne

Hi Fabienne,
 
Yes, I was listening to that teleclass of Jade and Betty's in the wings. I signed up for the Inner Theater Class on the last day (class 3) and was not able to make it on the call, but I knew I would be getting the recordings to listen to.

I am really glad I participated. To date, it has been one of the more useful alternative/enhanced EFT approaches I have learned. Seems I am able to accomplish in 15 or 20 minutes combining tapping with imagery and energy work i.e. Matrix Reimprinting, Inner Theater, Family Energetics(Deb Donndelinger) etc. what use to take an hour or more with traditional EFT approaches i.e. Movie Technique, Tell a Story etc. Karl Dawson does say we store memories/internal programs in images regardless of whether if we are visual, kinesthetic or auditory.
 
Yes, Marian is a great EFT’er and hypnotherapist, so no wonder she uses the power of inner theater/images in her work. I'm so glad that the 'white horse' experience with her has turned out to be such a profound one for you. And I am thrilled that you shared more details about it here in this post! I loved your recount of the knee pain and how it (the image of the horse) transformed when you tapped on it and then the pain went away. Our subconscious minds are so creative! 
 

Fabienne:

- other images of the white horse have appeared but I am questioning my experience of it. Am I creating this image now? matching it to how I am feeling?

Does it really matter if we create these healing images or not? Our mind-body is complex and highly intelligent. I feel that working on trusting that deeper part of us and learning to embrace that it really does know what it's doing, can offer us so many benefits. Unfortunatly, many of us were not brought up to rely upon or encouraged to develop our own inner guidance. But now, with approaches such as these, we can reconnect to this 'inner knowing' we have had all along.

That's really super about the Tolle meditation group you are forming! One of my favourite Oprah series is the 10 part ‘New Earth’ class she did with Eckhart; http://www.oprah.com/article/oprahsbookclub/anewearth/pkganewearthwebcast/20080130_obc_webcast_download

Thank you again for expanding on your powerful imagery experiences.

With love, Karen

P.S. I received Betty's email today that they are doing another free Inner Theater teleclass on June 16th. This time focusing the IT on conflict resolution. I am looking forward to it as Betty does some powerful work with 'parts' tapping. You likely already know about it, but if not here's the link; http://www.creativeeft.com/teleclasses.php