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EFT was originally developed to reduce the therapy process from months/years down to minutes/hours. As emotional problems faded, both physical health and personal performance improved (often dramatically). As a result, EFT is spreading quickly among the healing community. It is an emotional version of acupressure wherein certain meridian release points are gently stimulated by tapping on them with the fingertips.







Fatigue After Tapping, Spiritual Attachments, ET ALL!

Last post 09-01-2009 5:12 PM by Harry Chambers. 11 replies.
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  • 04-16-2008 5:19 AM

    Fatigue After Tapping, Spiritual Attachments, ET ALL!

     Hi, I've used EFT off and on for the past few years and recently have started using it more regularily - on all kinds of things.  Yesterday I tried it on a nasty bout of athlete's foot I've been experiencing (yes, I've read the letter from the woman whose husband's atheletes foot cleared uo after using EFT!) 

    Well, while tapping (I was sitting up in bed) - I started to feel anger rush through my body and my right leg started to kick like crazy (I was specifically tapping on a nasty inflammation between the second and third toes on my right foot.)  I had a definite sensation of my body trying to kick something off me. I did a second round and the same thing - more furious kicking. With the kicking came a sense of being pushed down by my father and me trying to push him off me. (Whether this is a figurative 'memory' or an actual memory of him physically squashing me, I don't know!) . With the kicking and the feeling of being 'squashed' there was also a sense of energy rushing down my leg and out my foot,

    When I tried to do a third round, I was too exhausted to get past the first few taps.  I rested awhile then went to work (evenings) and found myself coming down with a wee sore throat.

    When I went to bed last night I intended to do more tapping on the foot and obvious related issues (interesting because my dad who is now passed on also had athlete's foot!)  But I was too tired last night to even tap myself to sleep! 

     Fortunately I had a good sleep, but today I am still tired.  (Maybe I've picked up a bug - sore throat - or maybe the sore throat is the athlete's foot jumping around?)

     I believe prfoundly in EFT's power, and the relationship between emotions and physical health.  I am also starting to wonder about spiritual - or entity - attachment.

    The night before I tapped on the athlete's foot (or was it a dream I had in a nap AFTER I tapped, the thing is I connect the two!) I dreamt that I was being pursued by a human form (man's body, I am a woman), wearing a pliable latex - almost REAL face mask.  I told him to leave me alone, and he said: "I want your soul." and I replied "Well, you can't have it." In the dream I was on my bicycle, ad I raced off and away from the creature - I won't call it human. 

    Now, the thing is - about the same time I picked up the athlete's foot, I also picked up smoking - after not smoking for 20 years! I am not smoking a lot, but none the less - I am doing this habit that I find so despicable in others.  

     I'm curious to read others' experiences with, and thoughts about these types of things. To be speicific, in the EFT way:

    1) EFT and fatigue after tapping

    2) Other EFT success/experience with athlete's foot

    3) EFT tapping on specific problems and the problem jumping around and manifesting elsewhere

    4) Spiritual/entity attachment and EFT

    5) Anything else you care to comment on that comes up for you when reading my post and other's responses :-)

    Oh yes, one more thing -  since I've started using EFT more regularily, I am dreaming more.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

  • 04-16-2008 5:12 PM In reply to

    Re: Fatigue After Tapping, Spiritual Attachments, ET ALL!

    I'm not surprised in the increase of remembering dreams. We dream all the time but, usually don't remember them. About the kicking of the leg. Sounds like your body was doing what is called "unwinding". This is when memories or trauma/accidents/emotions are stored in the cells & fibers of the body. This can be released with EFT. The body regains it's balanced natural state.  I once worked with someone that had experienced horrible trauma and as we tapped their body started moving, twisting and moving of its own accord. As if it was being unwound from the inside out. It was an amazing process to watch (and occured in 20 minutes), along with the transformation in the person themselves. Just some thoughts.

    B. Marianna Niebauer, CH, NCTMB, LMT, RMT, EFT-ADV
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  • 04-16-2008 6:51 PM In reply to

    Re: Fatigue After Tapping, Spiritual Attachments, ET ALL!

     Thanks Marianna for input.  I forgot to mention that after I tapped on the athlete's foot, the next day the worst of the inflammation had subsided. I tapped again today on the athlete's foot.  Not sure I had the right phrasing, but I finished with "I am releasing this athlete's foot" and " I release this athlete's foot."  I did more rounds than I can remember today, and kicked both legs - I kicked and kicked and kicked - this was involuntary.  It didn't subside. I couldn't stop kicking.  Eventually I had to stop tapping to stop the kicking. But  I did get something inside it, and the phrase that came up for me was "I release my father." So I worked that for awhile.  Tears came with that.  With releasing my father came the phrase "Releasing my self-denial." (My father was big on self-denial.)  Anyway, it was all very emotional and it drained me.  

    About trauma:  I didn't have any particular traumatic memories during these tappings.  Only the releasing of my father, releasing him of my expectations and my disappointment in him not having been the father I wanted.  That was the emotion inside the kiccking, and as I said, with doing that tapping, came the releasing my own self denial.

    Thanks again for input.  I am a relative beginner/ 

     

    Next Day: I wanted to add some more results on this topic. 

    As I mentioned in my original post, I developed a minor sore throat after my initial tapping on the athlete's foot.  I also found inside that tapping, the sense of being smothered or suffocated by my father and wanting to kick him off me.  I think I also mentioned that when my father died I started smoking again after 20 years of not smoking! 

    After thinking about all of this, I decided to tap on the smoking.  I figured it is the most powerful physical manifestation, and most specific thing I could tap on.  So I went through a series of taps, and the set-up went something like this (sorry I didn't record or write down so I can only write from memory).

    1) "Even though I have this inexplicable re-addiction to smoking...."and while tapping I kept seeing my father. So then...

    2) "Even though I smoke to spite my father....."(he hated that my mother smoked, and hated that I started to smoke)...while tapping, memories of my father doing really weird things when I was kid, and putting all kinds of guilt on me, he even told me - when I was a little kid, about 5, that I was so impatient to be born that my mother almost died because I was born at home and she started hemorrhaging...

    3)  "Even though my father tried to diminish my zest and excitment about being born by telling me I almost killed my mother because I was so eager to be born... "(I realise now I should tap on the very specific incident, my earliest memory of him telling me this, and I should use his words "Even though my father put all this guilt on me because he told me I almost killed my mother because I was so impatient to be born..." rather than my healthy evolved interpretation: "so eager to get into the world, so ecited about being born that I couldn't wait till my mother got to the hospital..." AM I CORRECT IN THINKING I SHOULD TAP ON MY FATHER'S STATEMENT?

    Anyway, while tapping on the fact that my father tried to diminsih my excitement about being born, all kinds of images came up - memories of other weird things he did to diminish me, to somehow squash and suffocate my zest for life, suppress my beauty and sensuality, diminish my self-worth and pride in a job well done by scolding me for being proud of my work and on and on an on...so many things I cannot list so I tapped on the whole feeling of diminishment and suffocation of natural enthusiasm, and got that I smoke to suffocate my ehthusiasm for life...so then I tapped on that.

    I also tapped on using smoking as a way of reducing social anxiety. 

    And there were more things... 

    I also tried Marianne's suggestion (I read somewhere on the forum) of standing in front of a mirror with a candle and tapping.  The candle thing only made it too dark to see my eyes, so I then tried tapping in front of the mirror with the light on...that was interesting.  I was tapping on my desire to smoke, and while I was tapping I started wanting a cigarette, and so I kept tapping...eventually I decided I needed to smoke a cigarette to figure out what it is I need to tap on to get rid of the smoking...so I smoked a cigarette and while doing so remembered an incident when my father spanked me and my older brother, on our bare bums when we were too old to be spanked that way! (though I can't for the life of me remember why he spanked us!), and I got a sense of humilation in that incident and that maybe the smoking is somehow tied to humilation, that I smoke to humiliate myself <?!!> but I didn't have time to do more tapping. 

    As you can see, I am a newbie and kind of all over the place with this, but I have previously had a lot of success with EFT, and I figured out - with the original athlete's foot tapping, that  that was tied to my father trying to suffocate me somehow, and so then I decided to tap on the smoking, and there I got that the suffocation was more metaphorical for his style of child-rearing than an actual physical thing. 

    EFT has had such a positive impact on my life, and I am really happy - but I've picked up this athlete's foot and the smoking  - and both, in my mind, are inexplicable - I am really clean and diligent about washing my feet and changing socks daily, etc, and have used gyms and public swimming pools for years with no problem,  - so to have athlete's foot is just so NOT ME!  And since I stopped smoking, I hated it - couldn't stand to be around it, so having picked it up again, is so NOT ME.  So I figure there is something locked in my energy that is creating these two bizarre things in my life.  I believe profoundly in EFT's power to elliminate both (yes I am using athlete's foot cream as well).  I just can't seem to find the rtight phrase/issue to tap on. 

    But, the one thing that has happened since tapping on the smoking, I've started coughing like crazy - constantly having to clear my throat (until very recently I only smoked about 5 cigarettes a week, and only this past week have smoked 2or 3 a day).  Now, I've also suffered from chronic sinus problems, and have ocassional exercise-induced asthma.  And the first thing I ever experienced EFT success with - several years ago, when a friend who is a trained EFT practitioner tapped on me - was for claustrophobia! 

    Something else, after feeling so confounded by this, I downloaded again the manual and re-read it, and realized psychological reversal has been my numero uno problem in my life, so I am throughly convinced the smoking and the athlete's foot are tied to the energy - and because I have done so much work to correct energy imbalances and have come such a long way in my life, both are now the psychological reversal trying desperately to asert itself.  

     Sorry for beiung so long-winded, but I know EFT is in early stages of development, so I figure anything I write here about my experience may be helpful to its evolution as a healing tool, as much as to my evolution as an energetic being doing its best to be its best in this life! :-)

     Any input much appreciated.  

     

     

  • 04-18-2008 3:32 PM In reply to

    Re: Fatigue After Tapping, Spiritual Attachments, ET ALL!

     Alison- I've found that whenever a physical symtom manifests after tapping, it usually means that I didn't quite get all the aspects of the issue, or didn't get the SUDS down to 0. Another session working with the same issue usually does the trick. 

    Recently, I've been having a flare-up of my eczema, which I've had for many years, but always on my hands and arms. The strange thing is that this time it's all over...hands and arms, but also trunk and legs/feet. At first I was thinking that I might have gotten poison ivy, as I'd been ripping some out around our property, but I'm not generally affected by it, and this was red and itchy, but not blistered and oozing. I came to the conclusion that it's just eczema, especially when I realized that it started to flare up after a session with the mirror technique(!). In that session, I was tapping on a core issue about feeling unable to accept myself (because I'm a woman, and other phrases), which I'm still working on.

    In terms of the issues with your father you mentioned...yes, absolutely tap on that statement. Tap on it as you heard it, tap on the belief that you internalized, tap as if you were that child, and tap as if you were your father speaking to the child you were then. In front of the mirror, saying the phrase as if you were speaking to another person: ET you almost killed your mother because you were so eager to be born, you deeply and completely love and accept yourself...

    Also, the idea that something is "not me" is a form of resistence and denial. You might try "ET this smoking is so not me..." "ET having athlete's foot is so not me..." "ET I refuse to accept that I have athlete's foot" "ET I refuse to accept this smoking habit".

    I trust this will help...

    ~Desiree 


    You're braver than you believe, and stronger than you seem, and smarter than you think.
    -Christopher Robin to Pooh
  • 04-18-2008 6:08 PM In reply to

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    I tapped again today, and tried to be really specific.

    I chose three incidents with my father that haopened when `i was 8, 9 and 11.  Each incident had confused me as a child, and had dimished my self- esteem, and had left me feeling betrayed and angry.  After tapping on the first two, I realised I was saying goodbye to him and his influence in my life, and I became overwhelmed with grief.  So then I tapped on the grief about my father - it brought a lot of tears - and followed that with tapping on the third incident. I also tapped on a sexual abuse incident that occurred when I was about 11 with a man I have never been able to remember.  (I sometimes wonder if it was my father, but he doesn't figure in the memory.)

    Then the oddest thing happened: I rubbed the back of my neck, at the base of my cervical spine where I am developing a hump as a resut of poor posture.  So I then tapped on the poor posture, and found myself standing very straight and tall. With the improved posture, I had greater lung capacity (I already have an exceptionaly powerful lung capacity) and I held my higher higher.  I found it logical and interesting that posture came up with the tapping about my the incidents with my father, and I though I can probably benefit greatly by taking a few minutes every morning to stand in front of the mirror and tap on the posture.  It seems to me that as I use EFT to correct the posture, other issues that have diminishe dmy self esteem will come up. 

    I checked my emotional level throughout the tapping and the only strong emtion I experienced I was anger about the second and third incidents, but by the time the tapping was finsihed (I did both sides once, including under the nipple and the fingers, then the gamut, then both sides a second time, including the top of my head at the end of each series.)  the emotion was just sort of not there.  I wondered if I was supressing it, or if the emotional intensity had been lowered due to other tapping I have been doing. 

    In any case, with all but the grief, the highest emtional level I could get when I started was a 7 or 8.  I guess I would probably put them all at about a 3 now, just to acknowledge that there was time a when these incidents infuriated me.

    After I finsihed tapping I didn't feel any strong emotion at all.  I felt very passive, and have been in a very passive mood since.

    There are many other incidents I could tap on, not all with my father, that in some way diminished my self-esteem and self-acceptance - but I don't feel any strong emotion about them.  (I've done a lot of tapping with Brad Yates free ETaps loving myself, and feeling good soperhaps that tapping has rebalanced some energy.)

    The athlete's foot is subsiding and the coughing all but stopped after I finished tapping today,  but I still want to smoke !

    I guess I have to tap on "this compulsion to smoke.."

    All and any feedback appreciated. 

     

  • 04-19-2008 4:50 PM In reply to

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     I decided to try and tackle the smoking issue today so made a list of emotions and things and around smoking.  Then I had an experience of a friend letting me down and I smoked a cigarette and realised that was a really good emotional experience to link to the smoking so I tapped on:

    "even though I smoke when I feel let down..." when I started it was a 10, complete with tears, and so strong I didn't want to continue, but I forged ahead and did three complete sandwich rounds.  

    In there I found anger about smoking, and found myself really angry about smoking.  (For the first 17 years of not-smoking I did not go out to socialise because I was so disgusted by the smoking, and the smoking started up again when `i started going out!)

    S o I tapped on: "Even though I have all this anger about smoking: I am angry when other people smoke around me so I smoke to alleviate the anger and that makes me angry at myself, I smoke to accept people who smoke and to be accepted by people who smoke.." 

    (and I visualised an incident where I actually ripped the cigarette out of a man's mouth I had been so angry he was smoking around me!) ...

    ...well, I tapped on "all this anger about smoking...etc. (as above)" and did three sandwich rounds. I startef at a 10 and brought it down to a zero.  No kidding! In the end I was playing back the incident and had to just feel sorry for the guy who so desperately needed a cigarette and to laugh at myself for getting so upset about it! 

    But the greatest thing that happened, was while I was tapping on "all this anger about smoking..."  - about halfway through the second sandwich, I experienced a sudden  sense of relief that I no longer have to smoke to accept other people who smoke! That it's okay if other people need to smoke and they smoke around me, IT'S OKAY! AND I DON'T HAVE TO SMOKE TO ACCEPT THEM OR BE ACCEPTED BY THEM! (What a relief!) 

    Now I just need to get rid of the residual nicotine addiction that I've re-developed - but that shouldn't be too difficult - I kicked it once before WITHOUT EFT, surely I can kick it again WITH EFT.

    I'll keep ypu posted on the progress!  

     

  • 04-19-2008 4:54 PM In reply to

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    Desiree,

    Thanks for input! I hope your eczema is improving.  Sounds a really nasty falre up!

    I'm curious what does "ET" stand for?  Am I supposed to say "ET" or am I supposed to say to say my name?

    (The only ET I know about is the movie! :-) 

  • 04-19-2008 5:27 PM In reply to

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    Hi Alison,

    I just had a great success with nicotine addiction with a client using Stacey Vornbrock's protocol.

    Edited: 

    I have just discovered that I've been sharing information from Stacy Vornbrock's work that is copyrighted that I am not allowed to share publically.   She has graciously allowed that anyone who has already read this information can continue using it for personal use but it cannot be shared or reproduced in any format whatever. 

    She will be releasing this protocol in the next few months as standalone ebook ......... I'm really looking forward to her book as it's such great work and I've been wanting to share it with everyone!

    Thanks all and my sincere apologies to Stacey.  She was quite gracious in addressing this with me.

     

     

  • 04-21-2008 7:07 AM In reply to

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    Alison- ET stands for "even though" (even though I have this problem...). Sorry about that! You may see that, and other abbreviations here. I DACLAAM is another (for I deeply and completely love and accept myself) and yes, my eczema is improving. Thanks for asking. :-) ~Desiree
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    -Christopher Robin to Pooh
  • 04-22-2008 5:22 AM In reply to

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    Re: Fatigue After Tapping, Spiritual Attachments, ET ALL!

     

    Fatigue after an EFT session

     

    At some point in my practice I began using a variation of the eye-rolling and humming/counting section of Gary’s 9 gamut  procedure to act as an anchoring and rebalancing device. I try to always make this the last step in the actual session.

    For me, in an ‘ideally’ successful session, I am aware of the clients entire energy field moving in what I liken to a slow moving avalanche as their energy finds a new state of balance.

    My final instructions are these: (These are done in the context of a live chat session)

     

    OK so you need to read the instructions I’m about to give you first – then let me know when you are done.

     

    Ok now w/ eyes closed and head still, ‘look’ hard down right, hard up left, hard up right, then hard down left. Then eyes still closed and head still, roll eyes in large 360 deg circle once to the right, then once to the left.

     

    Let me know once you’ve done that.

     

    OK count aloud from 1 – 5

     

    Now hum aloud two bars of any childhood song,

     

    Now count aloud from 5 – 1

     

    I find that in the majority of cases this will completely eliminate the feeling of fatigue.

    I also suggest that this exercise will serve to anchor in the energy field changes already achieved, while allowing the shifting to continue for quite some time, usually until the client goes to sleep that night, in most cases. And they often report having the best nights sleep they’ve had in quite awhile.

     

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  • 04-23-2008 10:12 AM In reply to

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    Thank you Deborah, Desiree and philvt!  

    Desire, I worked out the ET thing just before I got your post - so I guess that was a bit of telepathetic communication :-) Thnxs! 

    I haven't yet tried the link you suggest Deborah but will! 

    I found a link to a smoking success with EFT in the addictions thread and unlocked a big part of the problem. I've been saying "This isn't me, I don't know who this person is who smokes." and the link I found was about the loser being a  smoker - and it snapped big time for me that it is most definitely the loser in me who smokes, because the winner certainly doesn't!  I also made a lot of conenctions with how the loser was awakened, so I've been tapping on losing the loser :-) ( I do like that "lose the loser"~)...but I'm still smoking.  Not much - but as far as I'm concerned - even a drag is too much!

    When I tapped on the 'the loser and the victim in me smokes and I choose to let go of that loser...' etc.  my sore spots were so sore afterwards I couldn't touch them! That was two days ago - today they are not so tender.

    About 16 hours after taping on the loser and the victim, I was still smoking and found a post about an entity attachment with a porn addiction, so I figured okay - the athlete's foot appeared and the smoking problem intensified when I was flat sharing (for one month only, thank God) with a rather despicable person who seemed riddled with addictions.  So I  also tapped on a possible spiritual fragment or entity attachment - and I told it to leave. 

    The first thing I experienced was itching all over my arms (while doing the set up!)  I had to stop doing set up to scratch the itching was that intense! Then as I did the tapping the itching spread throughout my entire body!

     But -after doing this, I was still smoking!

    Then yesterday - while in the shower I decided to tap and while tapping IN THE SHOWER - smelled a cigarette burning!  

    philvt, I am not so tired these days after tapping - maybe I've tapped out the worst of it! 

    But I  am stil tapping on the remaining smoking and athlete's foot.

    Something else - if you'ev read this thread from the beginning - you'll know that a sore thrioat developed after first tapping for the athelet's foot.  Well, that has developed into a full blown sinus congestion, and chest cough - now sinus has been a recurring problem ever since I stopped smoking (20 years ago), and the chest cough has only appeared again with the smoking. (Yes, I know they are linked!)

    What I am wondering  is if I can get rid of the sinus congestion will I also get rid of the athlete's foot and the smoking? (and hopefuly the loser, too!)

    And as you may recall - I also mentioned when I first tapped on the athlete's foot feeliing squashed or smothered by my father - this I KNOW is figurative for his child rearing stye, because he did squash my zest for life!

    Does everything go back to him? I've tapped on issues around him - do I need to tap on more of the father issues?

    I want to be totally FREE! Aready being tell me they admire and want to be free like me - wow they must be really blocked because I feel blocked right now - not only with the sinus, but also with having a totally free voice - and I want to be  totally free!

     

     

     

  • 09-01-2009 5:12 PM In reply to

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    Hi There,

    Do you know how to do muscle testing on yourself?  And if you do, muscle test yourself with you making a statment of your being your full name, if you test strong, this may, only may indicate you are fully you, your true self, minus no attaching spirits.  And by the way, how are you now?  There are others EFT list members and I too, we are able to what is called SRT, I do SRT but others may use their own methods to release earth bound spirits from the living.  I hope you are feeling better at this moment.

    Take Care,

    Harry

    PS:  If you now muscle test yourself and your test weak per saying you are your self, this may indicate that some further work need to clear you of possible others attaching spirits that some how got latched on to you.

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